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Doublespeak from U.S. Fish and Wildlife on Feral Cats

Above: Image from a presentation given by USFWS

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The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) wants it both ways when it comes to feral and free-roaming cats. On one hand, they claim that they have no policy on trap/neuter/return (TNR), the most effective and only humane method of managing community cat populations. On the other hand, USFWS sponsors conferences where their employees literally demonize cats (see illustration used in a presentation given in January by USFWS biologist Tom Will) as the number one problem facing bird populations based on made-up data.  Additionally, USFWS employees actively advocate against TNR and promote the killing of community cats.

There are several reasons that U.S. Fish and Wildlife has not officially come out against TNR. The anti-TNR contingent inside USFWS blames the lack of an official policy on the agency’s fear of backlash from the pet-loving public. It is also reasonable to assume that an official policy would require rigorous scientific support and background studies.

In fact, there is no rigorous scientific foundation for opposing TNR and there is no scientific basis for the claims made by conservancy groups and USFWS regarding the number of birds killed by community cats annually.

All of the predation claims cited by conservancy groups are based on numbers arrived at by multiplying the number of birds that one free-roaming cat is likely to kill in one day by the total number of community cats in the country. The problem is that no one — repeat, no one — knows with any certainty how many feral and free-roaming cats there are in the country. Likewise, no one knows whether the number of birds killed per cat is accurate or representative for cats in colonies managed by humane TNR methods.

What we do know is that in communities that support and encourage TNR, community cat populations decline over time and in communities that practice old school catch-and-kill methods, community cat populations rise or remain unchanged at the expense of thousands of shelter deaths, including people’s pets, funded by taxpayers’ dollars.

Think about it: If you spay or neuter a cat, that cat will not give birth to or father more kittens. Volunteers do the work for the most part, and, where publicly funded, the cost of TNR is far less of an expense to the public than the unacceptable and inhumane alternative of trapping, sheltering, killing and disposing of dead cats.

Whether or not Fish and Wildlife comes out with an official policy that advocates the killing of community cats (including people’s pet cats who are let outdoors for a few hours a day), there is plenty for cat lovers to be concerned about in the USFWS’s current practice of encouraging their anti-TNR employees to establish de facto policy by publishing their opinions and biases in official training documents and presenting them at conferences sponsored by taxpayer money.

Regardless of the inflated estimates floating around about the number of birds killed by cats, the fact remains that fewer cats will undoubtedly result in less depredation.  Perhaps, rather than using taxpayer dollars to fund workshops advocating the removal, and ultimately the death of all free-roaming cats, USFWS should be working with animal advocates to perfect TNR programs to curtail population growth.

Please contact USFWS director Daniel Ashe and ask him to align his employees’ activities and publications to support non-lethal solutions to wildlife conflicts — specifically, the TNR of free-roaming cats.

Catch and kill is a waste of money, and, more to the point, it is a waste of life.

 

Francis Battista
Co-Founder, Best Friends Animal Society

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  • Mishjb

    Hello Francis,

    Couldn’t agree more with you! I’ve sent an email to Mr. Ashe and will encourage others to as well.

    Hope you are doing well!

    Best,
    Michelle Peacock
    mishjb@sbcglobal:disqus .net

  • Brigit

    I would imagine that it’s difficult for USFWS to make a blanket statement regarding their attitude toward TNR given the wide diversity of the communities of which they are a part. Where I live, in an urban environment with no natural predators for the cats, TNR is necessary to control the feline population. However, many rural communities cannot KEEP enough cats alive to serve as a necessary check on the rodent population, and these tend to be the communities in which USFWS is most active. 

  • Jvorndran

    Woodsman001, get a life!  Open your eyes!  I hope TNR was done to you!  I’d hate to see more of your narrow, mean spiritness reproducing!

  • SquirrelNutZippers

    Oh spooky Woodsman fella – you’re like an outlandishly creepy combo of the Unibomber and Jeffrey Dahmer! I fear for all children and animals that might cross your path.

  • SquirrelNutZippers

    Oh spooky Woodsman fella – you’re like an outlandishly creepy combo of the Unibomber and Jeffrey Dahmer! I fear for all children and animals that might cross your path.

    • Anonymous

      This must be just like all those deeply disturbed serial-killers in the making that are eradicating all those other invasive-species like Kudzu, Purple-Loosestrife, Gypsy Moths, Emerald Ash-Borers, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, and Eurasian Watermilfoil from their lands and lakes.

      Or how about all those sickos that run animal-shelters, they’re nothing but a bunch of child-murdering pedophiles because they have to euthanize animals every day. And every farmer and rancher that has to humanely put down an animal with a gun must be molesting and murdering everything in their county. Those damned sickos! And what about all those people in stockyards murdering all those cattle every day for your McBurgers? I bet they’re a hide-out for all the serial-killers that nobody can find! And all those hunters that provide food for their family by hunting, I bet they’re the worst of all!

      I bet you’re onto something!

      Like your needing serious psychological help.

      Paranoid psychotic much?

    • Anonymous

      This must be just like all those deeply disturbed serial-killers in the making that are eradicating all those other invasive-species like Kudzu, Purple-Loosestrife, Gypsy Moths, Emerald Ash-Borers, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, and Eurasian Watermilfoil from their lands and lakes.

      Or how about all those sickos that run animal-shelters, they’re nothing but a bunch of child-murdering pedophiles because they have to euthanize animals every day. And every farmer and rancher that has to humanely put down an animal with a gun must be molesting and murdering everything in their county. Those damned sickos! And what about all those people in stockyards murdering all those cattle every day for your McBurgers? I bet they’re a hide-out for all the serial-killers that nobody can find! And all those hunters that provide food for their family by hunting, I bet they’re the worst of all!

      I bet you’re onto something!

      Like your needing serious psychological help.

      Paranoid psychotic much?

  • Anonymous

    Here’s a little information to help you understand the behaviors of “cat-lovers” and their cats. Something I discovered when local “cat-lovers” (an oxymoron if there ever was one) were using cats to overtake my land and woods, eventually even by moving my property markers when using their cats failed. (An expensive many $1000s lesson for them, surveyors are not cheap.) Now you’ll know exactly why cat-lovers do what they do. It really has nothing at all to do with their concern for cats, nor even the lives of anyone nor anything else, quite the opposite.

    Human Territorial Behavior By Expendable Proxy

    I have come to the inexorable conclusion that the vast majority of “cat-lovers” and cat-owners that let their destructive invasive-species roam free, and especially those that defend the rights of feral cats to overtake private and public property and wildlife areas, are only (cowardly) using cats as a proxy for their OWN territorial behavior. Not unlike uneducated inner-city youth that will disrespectfully and inconsiderately use loud music to stake-out a territory for themselves. Whether this behavior is done consciously or subconsciously, the underlying motive is the same. As long as they can have one of their cats defecate in another’s yard or destroy their property, animals, and wildlife; and the land-owner not have any recourse; the cat-owner/cat-caretaker owns that territory. It’s time to put a stop to them using their “cute kitty” excuse for usurping and stealing others’ property. If they want territory they can damn well buy it just like anyone else. Instead they’re using underhanded, disrespectful, and manipulative means. By putting (and sacrificing) live animals in the path of their envy and greed. Again proving why they don’t care about cats nor anyone else at all. “Cat-lovers” only really want your yard, garden, or forest while making all others and all other animals suffer for what they can’t have nor own. Bottom line–they want to control you and your property. That’s _ALL_ that “cat-lovers” are really after. It’s why they don’t care at all if their cat nor any other animals, nor even other humans, get harmed by their goals and (lack of) values in life.

  • Anonymous

    “[EDITORS NOTE: Woodsman001 – we’re happy to have your opinion
    represented here, but we will not allow you to advocate for violence
    towards living beings. We have a comment policy and anything that
    doesn’t fall within that, will be removed.”

    No violence toward living things? OH? REALLY???

    HYPOCRITES — EVERY LAST LOUSY ONE OF YOU!

    Look up the term TNR advocates just LOVE to use on how they reduce their feral-cat numbers, their candy-coating feel-good term of “Death by Attrition”. This means that their cats will die from disease, cat-attacks, animal-attacks, exposure, road-kill, starvation, and any other means that drastically shortens cats’ lives. ALL their cats suffering for how many months it takes to die that way. In many parts of this country and the world this clearly falls under the guidelines for cruelty to animals, animal-abuse, animal-endangerment, and animal-abandonment laws.

    Let’s not forget how TNR advocates don’t hesitate to carve up cats with scalpels as well as cutting off parts of their ears, from which they have to heal-up for weeks before they try to survive again. As if letting them die of “attrition” wasn’t bad enough, TNR-advocates start them off by terrorizing them with traps, cages, and sticking knives into them first.

    Not only are they cruelly torturing cats, but also all wildlife they inflict their cats upon. Their cats literally ripping the skin off of and clawing the guts out of any wildlife to use it as an agonizingly and slowly dying twitching play-toy for their cats. And as soon as all the “fun” has drained out of their play-toy, they go on and find another one to torture. This is no different than if cat-owners went to a pet-store and bought canaries and hamsters then threw them at their cats to watch their cats tear them apart for their amusement. What about all the native predators that depend on all those animals for their ONLY food? Their cats cause all those animals to STARVE TO DEATH. TNR-advocates’ cruelty knows no bounds. Not to mention their activities being in DIRECT VIOLATION of ALL invasive-species laws on earth!

    If you want to raise revenue for your towns and cities in order to deal with this invasive-species ecological-disaster properly, start charging all these TNR advocates with severe fines and imprisonment for CRUELTY TO ANIMALS AND VIOLATION OF INVASIVE-SPECIES LAWS.

    They’re not doing this out of any goodness of their hearts. THEY DON’T HAVE HEARTS, NOR MINDS. Proved, 100%.

    • Mrcartel

      Dear Woodsman001,
      The number one threat to wildlife is loosing their habitat to development and urban sprawl. Do you also suggest the same eradication of developers as well?
      Best Wishes, Mr. Cartel

      • Anonymous

        When the day comes and laws are passed to make it every person’s civic and moral DUTY to sterilize every human that is 1) overbreeding and/or 2) doing even more to destroy all native habitat and all the wildlife that’s left; then I’ll do everything in my power to make sure I obey that law and sterilize useless things like you (preferably with a dull and rusty hunting-knife); those who are as amazingly imbecilic as you who are advocating, increasing, and perpetuating the destruction of native wildlife everywhere by using your favorite invasive-species predator pet to do so.

        UNTIL THAT DAY, I’ll instead do everything I can to clean up the ecological disasters that idiots like you create for all of humanity and all of nature. It’s the only option I have available by law. Unfortunately the required laws to stop the source of the problem (see paragraph one) hasn’t been created — yet.

      • Anonymous

        When the day comes and laws are passed to make it every person’s civic and moral DUTY to sterilize every human that is 1) overbreeding and/or 2) doing even more to destroy all native habitat and all the wildlife that’s left; then I’ll do everything in my power to make sure I obey that law and sterilize useless things like you (preferably with a dull and rusty hunting-knife); those who are as amazingly imbecilic as you who are advocating, increasing, and perpetuating the destruction of native wildlife everywhere by using your favorite invasive-species predator pet to do so.

        UNTIL THAT DAY, I’ll instead do everything I can to clean up the ecological disasters that idiots like you create for all of humanity and all of nature. It’s the only option I have available by law. Unfortunately the required laws to stop the source of the problem (see paragraph one) hasn’t been created — yet.

        • Ah yes. The age-old cat owner’s excuse of why nothing should be done about their cats, because humans themselves are to blame. A wonderful red-herring that they spew like a religious mantra everywhere they are found. It’s nice to see that I’m not the only one to see through this excuse they use for not taking responsibility for all the damage they cause with their cats.

  • Cindi

    If people would take responsibility and spay/neuter their animals and not just discard them when they no longer want to care for them we wouldn’t be having this discussion. I much prefer the TNR to the alternatives.

  • Hilary

    Every
    research paper I have ever read on TNR can be countered by another…. on both
    sides of the issue. So research has its own flaws.  What I know is from experience and the TNR
    program that has been in place in my community for almost 20 years works. I
    live on an island so our ability to “control” the population is
    probably easier than on the mainland but even here it takes vigilance,
    commitment, time and money. Cats have no predators on the island except for
    humans and dogs.  The island is 26 miles
    long and my community is about a mile square and surrounded by a nature conservancy.  (The conservancy did its own research and
    chose to eradicate ferals on their property but they have noted the success of
    our TNR program – inner conflicts just like the USFWS.) 

    Anyhow, 20
    years ago there were ferals everywhere – on the deck of the restaurant, in and
    around the trash bins, litters were found on a regular basis.  The cats were skinny, sickly and a nuisance.
    Historically the town would eradicate pigeons and cats just before Memorial
    Weekend (we are a vacation destination) by putting a bunch of food in an open
    field and then shooting them all. This was always a temporary “fix” besides
    being inhumane and barbaric, and it didn’t work.  People with higher sensibilities then stepped
    in.  The TNR program was started in
    phases at different parts of town.  For
    the first couple of years of each phase the volunteers, supported by the local
    Humane Society, did mass TNR clinics. 
    Kittens were socialized and put up for adoption, the adults were
    released back into the colony.  

    Today we have
    2 major colonies with about 30 cats each and the majority of those cats are
    older than 10 years.  The majority are
    all spayed/neutered, vaccinated and healthy. 
    The volunteers pay for the food, keep the feeders clean and general keep
    the cats from being seen as a nuisance.  Visitors,
    regardless of their opinions on free-roaming cats, pay little heed because our
    cats are pretty much out of sight and out of mind.  Visitors who support TNR know of our program
    and donate money for its maintenance.  Sure
    there are a few cats that still need to be spay/neutered.  There will always be a couple of cats that
    avoid traps either in our community or on the conservancy property.  We also have people who abandoned their un-neutered/un-spayed
    cats here for various reasons.   But our
    small group of volunteers keeps up on it so it will never go back to the way it
    was. The few kittens that appear are collected, socialized and adopted (off-island
    preferably).

    I want to
    make it clear that I am not just a cat lover either.  I love all creatures – even people for the
    most part.  I am an avid bird watcher too.  Do I find bird feathers or dead lizards
    periodically – yes.  Do I wish I didn’t –
    yes.  But I don’t find them on a regular
    basis or in great numbers.  Are there
    certain shrub nesting birds I don’t see in the colony’s areas – yes, but I
    think that is a combination of the birds learning where to nest as much as
    anything (I personally wouldn’t live next to someone I thought might kill
    me).  I have actually watched the ravens
    pluck baby birds from nests so it’s not just cats.  Our cats are fed every night.  We no longer find them in the trash bins
    (unless someone purposefully puts them there) and they stay off the restaurant’s
    deck.  I must say that those of us who
    have cats don’t have a mouse or rat problem, and since the last of the
    restaurant’s deck cats have left  there
    are now pigeons in their place.

    So I guess
    what I am saying is that both sides can have passionate arguments.  What it comes down to is personal
    beliefs.  No method is 100% perfect but I
    choose the humane approach to free-roaming cat control.  Does it take more effort to maintain a
    successful TNR program and the resulting colonies – yes, but at the end of the
    day I am satisfied with the way I choose to live my life and honor the lives
    around me. 

  • Lovefelines2003

    Ridiculous and sickening.  TNR is the only way to go.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve got it exactly
    right, Francis: USFWS wants it both ways.

     

    Now that their
    participation in The Wildlife Society’s workshop (Witch-Hunt 101) has attracted
    lots of unwanted attention, USFWS is back-pedaling—and playing games with the
    public (to whom they are, ostensibly) accountable. Tom Will’s 2010 presentation
    to the Bird Conservation Alliance makes USFWS’s position quite clear:

     

    “Is it still FWS policy to promote legislation banning
    feeding of wildlife? Yes. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (Service) stands firmly
    behind its recommendations promoting legislation banning the feeding of
    wildlife, especially nuisance species such as feral cats. Local governments are
    better equipped than are Federal and State agencies to regulate feral and free-ranging
    cats since most local governments have ordinances in place to address domestic
    animal issues as well as animal control services and personnel to implement
    those ordinances.

     

    Is it still FWS policy opposing free
    ranging cats and establishment of feral cat colonies? Yes. The Service continues to oppose the establishment of feral cat colonies as well as
    the perpetuation and continued operation of feral cat colonies.”

     

    If USFWS has no official policy, it’s
    not for lack of trying.

     

    It’s important to point out, too, that
    their justification for this “no-policy” policy is deeply flawed. In fact, Will’s
    presentation is a gross misrepresentation of the data (done, I’m sure at
    taxpayer’s expense), a dramatic (though, sadly, not uncommon) failure of
    USFWS’s stated commitment to the “best available science.” Readers interested
    in the details are welcome to check out my blog, Vox Felina (http://www.voxfelina.com/2011/06/spoiler-alert/), where I’ve pointed out some of Will’s more egregious
    errors, and posted a link to his original presentation.

     

    And finally, readers might be
    interested in knowing just how USFWS plans to “manage” feral cats: more
    trap-and-kill. Which, of course, has proven ineffective for generations now. And
    costly—in 2003, USFWS paid USDA $50,000 to trap feral cats in the Florida Keys—as I understand
    it, they trapped just 13 cats and several dozen raccoons.

     

    How many cats could
    have been sterilized for $50,000?

     

    “Successful”
    eradication efforts are brutal. Consider, for example, what was done on Marion
    Island, where—despite being only 115-square-miles in size, barren, and
    uninhabited—it took 19 years to eradicate about 2,200 cats. Using disease
    (feline distemper), poisoning, intensive hunting and trapping, and dogs.

     

    Even if we set
    aside for the moment the cruelty involved, how would we scale this up to
    address the “feral cat problem” across the U.S.? And who would pay for it?
    USFWS isn’t saying. (Indeed, the agency doesn’t even acknowledge the
    well-documented island eradications in their “plan” to eradicate cats from the
    Florida Keys.)

     

    The bottom line? USFWS’s
    approach to feral cat management is no good for cats, or for the wildlife USFWS
    claims to protect. And it’s no good for an agency whose budget is already stretched
    thin—or for the taxpayers who fund it.

     

     

    Peter J. Wolf

    http://www.voxfelina.com

  • Bigyellowcat71

    I’ve done TNR for over 25 years. I’ve seen it work. Every time. QED.

    • Pamela

      I don’t know about your statistics, but I do know that without TNR we would be overrun by cats at our home, my office & my husband’s office. We have trapped spayed/neutered all 3 colonies NONE of them are now reporducing. The 5 at my husbands work, 3 at my work & 3 outside our house are it!!! So lets see, 11 cats X 5 kittens each at least 3 times a year…Thats 165 NEW cats a year that will NOT be born to suffer the same fate and kill your precious birds!!!

      • Pamela

        Sorry, I was responding to Woodsman

  • Anonymous

    What’s a “community cat”? Is that the same as a stray, the kind that comes through my backyard and terrorizes my indoor cat through the patio door? How about the “community songbirds” that stop at the feeder I have hanging in the yard? How do I prioritize between the community songbird and the community cat?

    • jon15

      Circle of life.  There are humane ways to deter the cats from being in your yard if they bother you, same as there are humane ways to keep the deer, woodchucks, squirrels, etc. out.  “Community” hawks and other animals kill songbirds, too.

  • Anonymous

    TNR programs and their advocates are making absolute fools out of each and every one of you that they con with their nonsense. Not only are they causing untold damage to ALL native wildlife (directly and indirectly) and further spread of deadly diseases to all animals and humans, but are also doing *ABSOLUTELY* *NOTHING* to curtail cats’ breeding rates.

    If you do the research, as I did using data from the most “successful” TNR programs, you’ll easily find that not even *ONE* TNR program has EVER trapped more than 0.4% of existing cats in any one area for over a decade now. They simply cannot trap them faster than they breed out of control, no matter what they do. And those cats that learn to evade traps go on to produce offspring that now also know how to evade any trapping method used. So not only are 99.6% still and ALWAYS breeding out of control, and spreading their diseases everywhere, and still destroying ALL wildlife (native prey becomes tortured play-toys, native predators starve to death from cats destroying their ONLY food), but TNR fools are also ensuring that any future generations of these devastating invasive-species won’t even be able to be trapped. This is why, due to TNR-Advocates’ insistence that they have “the answer”, that their feral-cat population has now climbed to an ecologically-deadly 150 MILLION feral-cats across the USA. Soon to turn into 1.5 BILLION cats within the year if you apply cats’ breeding rates to previous population numbers.

    Find whatever way that you can to destroy all feral and stray cats on-sight. Avoid using traps if at all possible because trapping is what slowed everything down to where cat populations have now sky-rocketed out of control. TNR advocates are at least right about one thing, trap and kill doesn’t work either, because it is based on the very same flawed method that they use — slow, random-chance, inefficient, easily outfoxed traps. There’s a reason the phrase “hunted to extinction” is so well-known in all cultures across all lands. It is the *ONLY* method that is faster than a species can out-breed and adapt to.

    On advice of the local sheriff where I live I used a .22 equipped with a good illuminated-scope and a laser-sight for use when they are most active, dusk to dawn; as well as to afford precision aim for a humane kill. I shot every last one of them on my property to restore all the native wildlife to proper balance. Mission accomplished! 100% total success! This is even a more humane method than terrorizing trapping and animal-shelter methods; and why it is the preferred feral-cat management policy in so many areas today. One moment the cats are happily stalking defenseless animals to cruelly torture again, the next they are dead and don’t even know what happened. Making your land 100% cat-free is something that cat advocates haven’t been able to solve nation-wide for 30-40 years. On my land only 1 person in only 2 seasons was able to accomplish what they couldn’t attain in decades. Why is that? The cost per cat was also only 0.3 CENT, 3 cats PER PENNY, a ONE-TIME expense (5000 rounds on sale for only $15). All cats gone for the price of a few cups of coffee. And contrary to another famous TNR-Advocate’s bald-faced “vacuum effect” LIE … NO CATS REPLACED THEM. The NATIVE predators and their required NATIVE prey that WAS here and BELONGS here is what replaced their lousy invasive-species cats that had destroyed the entire native food-chain. This year I’m even enjoying birds I’ve never seen in my life before. Two of the warblers listed in the top 10 songbirds of the world for their song. What an amazing sound to awake to each morning. You have no idea what you’re missing if you have cats by you. I now feel sorry for anyone who has cats. Their lives and world are dismally empty and they don’t even know it.

    May you have as much success as I did, and so quickly and inexpensively too.

    p.s. Avoid the use of poisons if at all possible that, if released into the food-chain, would go on to harm the very wildlife that you are trying to save from destruction by cats. And please bury or incinerate the carcasses so all the highly toxic diseases that cats now carry won’t go on to harm nor infect more wildlife or humans. Which, if you do a Google search, now even includes cats spreading the plague in the USA. So much for that myth that cats would have saved people from the plague in Europe, cats would have made it far worse, and just might do so this time around. Search some more and you find they are also spreading flea-borne typhus and tularemia now too.

    • Bigyellowcat71

      you have no idea what you’re prating about. Get some REAL statistics from people who DO TNR (like me) and see the truth: TNR works. The math is as obvious as a cement sidewalk to anyone with sense.

    • righttolive

      So killing anything you don’t like that you feel is “invading your turf” is the answer?  How did that work out for the Jews, or the slaves, or the Native Americans?  Same primitive thinking.

    • C.C.

      I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU!!  The problem is people who do not spay and neuter!!!!

    • Noel

      The above “informed” poster claims 150 million cats will turn into 1.5 billion cats..? So your saying that ten years ago there were only 250,000 feral cats? And ten yeaes before that there were only 122 feral cats???

      Cats, like yourself, dont live forever, for every 1.25 cats born, 1 will die…

      There is no mystical, expanential growth in feral cat populations, there is only fact… And for 50,000 years mankind has gotten along with cats, we can into the future as well…

    • Lovefelines2003

      Wow – cats cause untold damage to ALL native wildlife?  Did you get that info from the tooth fairy or Santa’s elves?  As one who does TNR and has managed my own colony, I have seen with my own eyes that it works.  That beats your research or anyone else’s.  Why would anyone take you seriously if you are advocating for violence towards any living being? 

    • Don’t worry about the terminally insecure people censoring things Woodsman001. They can’t help it. In order to retain their immense bliss borne of their self-inflicted ignorance, they MUST poke their own eyes out. It’s how they survive in the world, with blinder on. They can’t handle reality. Not in the least.

      The rest of us already know that any Disqus forum that’s being censored by local moderators, you merely have to right-click on that page and “view source” to see the full posts. All your valuable information is still fully intact.

      Thanks for sharing some intelligent and actually useful solutions that actually work! Unlike all this TNR bull they go on about.

      • COOL! Thanks on the DIQUS tip! It seems there’s quite a few thing that this “moderator” was childishly afraid of. LOL!! I wonder if s/he sleeps with a light on? LOL!

  • When it comes to native species and our ecosystems, I believe the burden of proof should be on those who claim that large feral cat populations are not an issue.  What should I expect from an org that is an off shoot of a famous religious cult?