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Beans and Where We Go from Here

EDIT: We have closed comments on this post. While we clearly are completely fine with conversation, the comments have become incredibly unproductive, accusatory and filled with statements that are just plain untrue. Best Friends is working towards solutions and attempting to learn from this tragic occurrence and ensure it never happens again. Patty Hegwood has offered to personally answer questions relating to this issue as we move forward, but what won’t happen is responding in the comments to these baseless accusations that are hurtful on many levels. That some are questioning our transparency and truthfulness, when all we have done is communicate each step of the way, is truly unfortunate. We thank everyone for their support and we will continue to post updates on the issue as they become available.

First of all, I am happy to say that Tug and Denzel are doing well. Thank you for all the prayers and good thoughts. On behalf of the all the staff, I want to thank you for the support for that’s been expressed. This has been a sad week for me and everyone at Best Friends.

Second, I would like to take this opportunity to clear up any misunderstandings surrounding the Sunday morning incident, including allegations about denial of requests for additional fencing. We don’t take the death of Beans lightly, so I wanted to address some of the concerns raised in the comments on our previous blog posting.

Dogtown and our facilities are always evolving to meet the changing needs of the dogs. Because Beans had dog aggression, he was placed in a solo run with a concrete board visual barrier between him and his neighbor. Sadly, Beans somehow managed to break through the exterior fence of his run, and was found deceased outside of his run on Sunday morning. I personally inspected the entire area for hours after this incident and could only conclude that he was trying to get after something. There were many deer hoof prints around the runs. We’ve never used double fencing for exterior fence lines, but we are going to revisit those plans to improve safety. For the record, there has never been a request for fencing that has been denied due to lack of funds, period. We probably will never know the actual sequence of events, but we know the outcome. Our task now is to ensure it never happens again.

Obviously, trying to create a completely risk free environment is difficult. In the early days of the sanctuary, 30+ dogs were out of their runs most of the time and just hung out. That is because most of the dogs that came to Best Friends in those days were dogs just down on their luck. The growth in number of great rescue organizations across the country means that most of those highly adoptable dogs are going straight to homes rather than sanctuary. So the dogs that we are asked to take are increasingly those with more serious behavior issues, many as a last chance and opportunity for a new life.

Beans loved people, and everyone loved Beans. He enjoyed the agility training and exercises that were part of his life, and he was quick to bond with all of his caregivers and visitors. He is dearly missed.

Again, thank you for all the support. It means the world to us.

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  • Jessica

    To exfriender and others,
    Please, please stop posting about Beans and the supposed torn off head. I don’t believe this happened, but even if it did, it only hurts dogs, especially pitties, to talk about it here. Beans is dead. It doesn’t matter if his body was torn apart. It doesn’t matter. I am pleading to your heart here. Post elsewhere (Yes Biscuit or wherever), but please stop posting here. Your words are inflaming passions, and these are not good passions. Please continue to post about how to improve dogs’ safety at BF (please continue to push for double fencing) but please no more gory stuff. It only harms. Thank you.

    • Dj Slez

      Please stop using the word “pitties” to make them sound more innocent overall and especially within this case.

      It’s not uncommon for the to rip the limbs off of other beings especially when they’re trained to fight and allowed to fight to the death. Watching any serious underground fighting ring or documentary would exemplify this without question. So it’s not really far fetched that two dogs that were trained to fight to the death would be experts in fully disabling and decapitating another dog.

      I do sincerely feel horrible at what happened with Beans. And I agree, people should be shoving down BF’s throats that better fencing should be mandatory for powerful breeds and known escape artists within the sanctuary.

      But to ignore the fact that what happened to Beans was gruesome is doing no good for people who want the honest, documented, truth. And it certainty removes any bad thoughts or wariness anyone would have on the vick dogs, thoughts which are fully justified because of this case and cases like it.

      • doglove

        “But to ignore the fact that what happened to Beans was gruesome is doing no good for people who want the honest, documented, truth.”

        Do you really want the “honest, documented, truth”? The truth is bad enough, Beans is dead. I was there, I saw his body. HE WAS NOT DISMEMBERED AND NONE OF HIS LIMBS WERE RIPPED OFF! If you had been there in person you would know this. Will you accept the truth from somebody who actually knows, who was actually there? Somehow I doubt it.

        • Dj Slez

          I cannot take your word on the fact that you were there for I don’t even know who you are. If you can provide photos or record of you being there, then I will take what you say with some credibility.

          • doglove

            If you can provide photos or records of YOUR claims then I will know you are a fraud. Oh, and where were you Sunday morning? Not at the lodges or the clinic, I know that much.

    • Dwf

      You know what being passionate about things is not a bad thing Jessica! Perhaps if their were a little more passion on BF’s part we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Last time I checked, BF was telling anyone who would listen how great they are and how great the sanctuary is. Well, news flash not all is as it would appear to be!

    • exfriender

      Jessica, as I said further down in response to Jon Dunn, you are entirely correct and I apologize. It really has nothing to do with the issues here and is harmful to a breed that I love and enjoy working with.
      –George

  • Concerned

    I have been a supporter of BF and over the years have heard many disturbing things that have occured. From Blue Bear, the incident with the rabbits (which by the way was not made public) and I could go on and on. It seems to me that if you would just tell the truth about Beans all of this could be laid to rest. Beans no more broke out of his run than he could fly!!!! Do yourselves a favor and all your supporters and non supporters alike. FOR ONCE TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH!!! Stop trying to blow smoke and admit that Tug was the one to instigate this whole situation. I don’t care if he is one of the Vick dogs, everyone has been supportive of these dogs but hiding the truth is not going to solve anything. If Tug did this once he will do it again, only next time it might be a lot worse. Please tell the truth.

    • Dwf

      It would be incredibly difficult for BF to acknowledge that one of their beloved “Vicktory” dogs did anything wrong. That my friends would be BAD PR and would make obtaining donations more difficult for them. Also, since BF is trying soooo hard to save America’s dog this once again is BAD PR for their cause! When are people going to see past all of the Best Friends BS?

      • concerned

        You are right. This is a futile effort. The BS will go on and on!!! God help the animals there who are going to be effected by the negligence of these wonderful caregivers.

  • Cindi F

    I am usually more of a reader than a writer when it comes to comments on blogs or news sites. This thread really bothers me however, especially since someone who is new to the site seems to be judging BF based on it instead of the good that they have done. In any comments you read on the web you’ll always find people who are ignorant or angry or just trying to say things to get attention. If I worked at BF and was one of the ones who had to see this incident after it happened I would be devastated so I can only imagine what kind of state of mind everyone there is in. If you are going to tear apart every word that they posted, remember that people don’t always intentionally leave information out or try to mislead you. We are a very jaded society. Whether there are internal issues or not, I’m sure BF will do their best to try to avoid accidents like this in the future. Most of life is live and learn, yet we are so quick to place blame. I will continue to support BF and am grateful there is a place like this where dogs that normally wouldn’t get a second chance can go. I tend to believe that people who rant in online postings lose credibility(no offense to anyone). It’s a tragedy, but we shouldn’t let it overshadow all the good things.

    • Becky Dodge

      Well said

  • Kim

    I am so sorry about this accident, my prayers go out to all of you and i know you will do everything you can to improve! TY for all the good you do for animals who would have no other chance 🙂

  • EmilyS
    • Dj Slez

      THIS is the kind of response I will parade them for. But have we yet to hear it? Sadly not… only “consideration of having reinforced fences…”

      You’d think a decapitated dog and two severely injured ones would make them say, “we’re getting fencing within the next couple of months. And are holding a fund raiser to speed the process.”

  • Dwf

    Unfortunately or sadly enough these types of incidents happen more than Best Friends lets on. It just so happens that this particular incident was able to make it out of Best Friends. Now Best Friends is forced to do damage control and, as is their MO, they are attempting to deny that they are the least bit responsible and are blaming the entire event on a DEER! Come on! How stupid do they think people are?

    • Julie

      ‘This particular even was able to make it out’? Um, it was written in a blog by Faith. It ‘made’ it out because they announced it.

      And, I will say this, Beans was VERY animal aggressive. If, in fact, there were deer in the area, I wouldn’t be AT ALL surprised that he went crazy and was able to get out of his run to get at them.

      • Dwf

        Sadly for you Julie it sounds as though you are a diehard BFer that regardless of what they do or don’t do you will defend them. I guess facts and the cold hard truth play no part in your cognitive reasoning. It is very disheartening to see someone with such a closed mind.

        • Julie

          What ‘facts’? I have seen not one single ‘fact’ that you mention.

          • Kathi

            What is disheartening, Dwf is seeing someone with such a huge cross to bear that you’re willing to criticize from in front of your computer. What exactly are you doing for animal welfare??

          • Dwf

            Please re read the post Kathi. Not sure what you are alluding to about bearing crosses?????

          • Kathi

            Dwf, my point is that it seems there are vultures in the air anytime something goes wrong at BF. If the shoe fits…..

          • Fluffysmom

            Excuse me Kathi, but what are you doing but sitting in front of your computer? People who live in glass houses, etc, etc, etc.

          • Kathi

            As my previous post says, I’ve volunteered at BF several times so no, I do not work for BF. Exactly who are you – EX employees who hold a grudge perhaps?
            Fluffysmom, I’m sitting in front of a computer, but I’m not involved in a coup to tear down an organization. Big difference.
            I’m done with this thread – you two and EXfriend go ahead with your little hatefest. Sometimes vendettas are so obvious that it’s pathetic. I’m not going to play in your little reindeer games any longer. Grow the F up.

          • Dwf

            Sorry that you feel that way:( But, does not surprise me that you are going to take your ball and go home. Once again the truth hurts! I think you realize you are in a debate you can’t win. So, you are doing what any ‘good’ BF supporter would do and deny any wrongdoing and deflect the blame. And oh yeah, try and make others out to be the ‘bad’ guys. Perhaps you should take a bit of your own advice and grow the F up? Or learn to debate your position better:)

          • Dj Slez

            Some people can’t handle the truth. And others are horrible debaters that don’t know how to provide factual evidence.

            Unsurprisingly, Kathi seems to be a mix of both. :'(

          • Dwf

            If you are referring to a ‘vulture’ as someone who likes the truth, then, yes I will wear those shoes that you speak of. Just curious Kathi, do you work for BF? Say in there PR department by chance?

          • Dj Slez

            I for one am not a vulture or “troll” like you had labled me previously. 😉

            I’m just a person who goes by what they see. I commend them for giving animals a second chance that deserve it, and for loving each one o them.

            But I condemn them for overlooking obvious security issues and for indirectly allowing this to happen, as it could have easily been more preventable….

          • Dwf

            Please read the post by ‘Fluffysmom’ near the bottom of this blog. But, I already know what your response will be. Once again, it is very sad to see someone with their head so deeply buried in the sand. It appears that you have already taken a drink from the BF kool aid.

          • Julie

            Again, when a real person wants to present me with FACTS, I’ll be glad to listen. You people can’t even use your own names. I read with ‘Fluffysmom’ wrote and have yet to see one single fact. And, it’s kind of hard to take seriously a person who uses the name ‘FLUFFYSMOM’.
            I am far from close-minded. Again, I go on facts. Facts that I have discerned from my time spent at Best Friends and time I have spent with employees at BF. As I mentioned in my post below, I am well aware that BF isn’t perfect, but, then again, no person or organization is. Keep trying to tear them down….

          • Dwf

            Well Julie, it seems as though BF still can do no wrong in your eyes. The facts of this case are pretty straight forward, even for those of you with your “blinders” on. A dog is dead. Two other dogs are seriously injured after a night of fighting each other. And this is not the first time something like this happened at BF. You are not the only one to have worked at BF.

      • Fluffysmom

        No Julie, it came out of Best of Friends/Worst of Friends blog first. Hours after wards it came out on the BF sitet by Faith. I hear she was quite upset about having to come out with it and the caregivers had been warned not to say anything to anyone.

        • Anonymous

          Your post is misinformed. As the person who posted the first blog post on behalf of Faith, our post was posted within an hour of that other post. Unfortunately their is not a time stamp to prove it.

          However, since a few people seem be very aware of the internal workings of Best Friends, you will know the writing of such a post doesn’t happen quickly. So our intent to be transparent about the situation was set in motion early on Sunday morning. Long before any other posts appeared.

          I am not going to continue debate on such a ridiculously minute piece of this story.

          Jon Dunn
          Best Friends Animal Society

      • exfriender

        Unfortunately, there’s no time stamp on Faith’s blog. Mine came out on Oct. 11 at 4:09 pm MDT and was referenced on
        http://yesbiscuit.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/crazy-case-in-nm/
        at 6:23 pm and also went to some mailing lists.

        Faith’s reply came out several hours later. However, only those watching right at those times could verify this sequence.

        Would Faith have said anything if I hadn’t posted this issue? There’s no way for us to know for certain, but consider when this incident happened and how long it was before Faith responded to it.

      • concerned

        Give it a break. Who do you think you are BS’s. The truth is staring you right in the face and you won’t accept it. So be it!!! I can see it now Beans, going after two fighting Pitt Bulls. Pull your head out of the sand Julie. Reality that is what will save BF and all the animals there.

  • Julie Busa

    I posted this on Faith’s blog and am posting it here now as well:

    I’ve been keeping a close eye on this story and these comments since this incident happened and I have a few things to say.
    Everybody wants to lay blame. It’s so easy to blame someone. I’m sure there’s someone we can blame. BF for not having the proper fencing or not listening to the caregivers. A particular caregiver for possibly not locking a gate. Beans for going crazy when/if he saw a deer. Tug for being a Vick dog and having been conditioned to fight and likely killing Beans. The list goes on. Did the powers that be at BF deny double fencing because of money? Or whatever. Possibly. Unfortunately, many organizations don’t listen to their employees until something tragic like this happens. No person or organization is perfect and I think people tend to forget that. BF is like any other organization out there. Not everone who works there, or who has worked there, is happy with the way things are run (obviously, since we seem to have a former employee or two constantly trying to tear them down). I’m sure there is no conspiracy and that BF never purposely decided to not listen to what anyone says to be evil or stingy with their money. They do the best they can and hopefully will do better now that this tragedy has happened. And for the record, I know Beans. I have volunteered at the sanctary several times, have spent time with Beans and his caregivers who loved him. This was devastating news and I still cry about it. Asking questions is one thing, trying to tear down an organization that has done so much good, is another.
    The whole pitbull thing is another story. Everyone has their feelings on pitbulls and what should be done. All I know is what I have experienced myself, and most of this was from spending time with these dogs while at the sanctuary. They are some of the most loving dogs I have ever come across. The Vick dogs were victimized and conditioned to fight by an evil person who has never once shown any remorse. BF is one of the few organizations out there who stepped up to help these dogs. They didn’t just do it for show or money. If that were the case these dogs wouldn’t be getting the kind of care they’ve been getting. They don’t languish at the sanctuary. They are worked with and many have been adopted out to loving, responsible homes. What a shame to kill a dog like Cherry who has gone from being so scared he had to be carried around to living in a home with ANOTHER dog. Or to kill some of the other Vick dogs who have gone on to become therapy dogs.
    BF has been very transparent about this incident, making a statement as soon as possible. This incident didn’t even happen a week ago. They are still speculating themselves as to what happened. And to expect them to take care of the fencing, or institute a night patrol this quickly is expecting too much. I am sure they are working on getting all of this into place as soon as possible. Sitting behind your computer and constantly criticizing (as an anonymous person, no less. At least have the guts to sign your name) helps no one.

    • Kathi

      Absolutely concur, Julie…Thank you for the voice of reason.

  • Kathi

    I have volunteered at Best Friends for nearly 2 years now. I’ve squeezed in 6 trips during that time. While I obviously don’t know all the in’s and out’s of the Best Friends workings, I do know enough to say with 100% confidence that love and compassion prevail there and I’m left with such a full heart when I leave that it’s difficult to come back to the real world.
    I knew Beans and am absolutely devastated about what has happened. It’s hard for me to believe that he won’t be there the next time I visit. There is no denying that this is a tragedy of huge proportions.
    While I’m not completely sure of what went on Sunday morning, what I am sure of is the bickering and the backlashing of Best Friends isn’t helping a thing. Do you think this is helpful to caregivers who have their hearts invested in these dogs and who have been through living hell the last week? Perhaps set aside your personal vendetta towards Best Friends and think about how some of your posts might affect people who are there and who are suffering. I’ve read the most preposterous things on these blogs that it boggles my mind.
    Regardless of what people think of pitties, these Vicktory dogs DESERVED to be removed from their hell on that compound, they DESERVE to have a life with people who can show them love and compassion and they DESERVE respect. Keep in mind that Tug and Denzel were trained by the heartless individuals at the Michael Vick compound to fight for their lives. That is what they know. That is what was literally pounded into them. Best Friends came to their defense when so many animal groups turned their backs, saying it was best to kill them. Best Friends deserves boundless credit for that and I for one, will never turn my back on them like a few have done on this blog.

    • Julie

      Well said, Kathi. I couldn’t agree with you more.

    • exfriender

      Kathi, this is only “huge” because of the Vic Pits. You are claiming bickering when people are just asking for the truth? Instead of you speaking for the caregivers, listen instead to the ones who warned BFAS and were ignored, and try to imagine how they feel. Perhaps a real change at BFAS would be far more helpful to them, so that history doesn’t keep repeating itself.

      • Kathi

        Exfriender (your nickname says a lot to me by the way), I beg to differ with you. Regardless of the Vicktory dogs involvement, any time a life is lost in this manner, it’s “huge”. I recognize your name from posts long ago, you’ve been in action against Best Friends for a long time – do you think it might be time to hang it up and do something a bit more constructive?
        Also, as an EXfriend, how is it you know so many endless details about what went on? You’re obviously not there. I’m not speaking for the caregivers, I am speaking on behalf of the caregivers, a couple of whom I consider friends. Your agenda is more important to you than people’s feelings.

        • Fluffysmom

          Kathi, if exfriender has an agenda, maybe it is for the betterment of care for the animals at the sanctuary and not for the BF bottom line. I, and many others think his so called “agenda” makes more sense than the BF propaganda. So far there are many conflicts in what BF has said. For instance, Faith says that they are putting up double fencing. Patty Hedwood says they are looking into and considering it. Who is telling the truth???

          • Dj Slez

            Its this type of staff befuddlement that’s really making me question how truthful they can be or not…

          • Topy’s mom

            How long do we have to put up with your venomous spewing of lies and misinformation? Get a life….or better yet, go and volunteer at Best Friends so that you have some basis in fact. How dare you post this trash as fact about a place you’ve never seen, caregivers and dogs you’ve never met? You are a sad, sad person with an evil agenda.

          • Dj Slez

            I volunteered at local shelters before and have been around many pitbulls, some good and some bad, so don’t think I “know nothing of the breed” when I’ve had plenty of experience being around them.

            I do have a life thank you, today happens to be rather lazy day for me so I’m just spending my time watching movies, going outside, hanging with friends, and chatting on the internet. While you criticize the numerous amounts of posts I’ve made, why not criticize Kathi or some other people who far out number or equal mine? Or are you not going to touch them because they think pitbulls are all innocent angels?

            I never posted trash on the caregivers. In fact, I commend them. I trash the management of the place though as well as their fencing capacity. So please… stop putting words in my mouth and – oh! Telling lies. 😉

            Name one things about my statements that are evil?

            Tug and Denzel should be euthanized because they KILLED another dog… They should be euthanized because they are trained for fighting are are thus a danger to many other animals there.

            Just because I’m stating observations and truths doesn’t mean I’m lying. Read up on some of my research if you’d like. But I’m sure you wont because people like you prefer to put your head in the sand.
            http://pitbullmuckracker.blogspot.com/

          • Dj Slez

            And you obviously haven’t read any of my other posts. Here’s some positive things I’ve said on there and within my blog.

            • The caregivers are commend, but the management I condemn.
            • If a pitbull can find a good home, great! But don’t pimp out fighting dogs.
            • Pitbulls can make excellent pets in the right hands. Which are few.
            • Pitbulls are intelligent dogs, but require lots of discipline and a watchful eye.

            My list could go oooooooon.

    • Dj Slez

      I think back lashing will help them. Maybe if they know a lot of people were pissed about them not providing appropriate fencing (something they were WARNED about) for something that could have been completely avoided then they’ll procure such fencing a lot faster to save other dogs from meeting the same fate as Beans… which was totally uncalled for.

      “Keep in mind that Tug and Denzel were trained by the heartless individuals at the Michael Vick compound to fight for their lives.”

      I like how people keep ignoring that these dogs ancestors were bred for fighting and they themselves could have been bred for fighting and that this obviously is something that can’t be completely taken out of the dog, especially when it it exposed to fighting.

      If this were any other dog that seriously injured or ripped the head off another dog then they would be euthanized… But hey, those dogs are worth too much money so of course they’re only going to get a slap on the wrist.

      Either way, this will hopefully never happen again. And although I do believe that that the people there really do love these animals. I’m highly aggravated at the management of it all…

  • Patty

    Dr. Michael Dix, our Medical Director of Best Friends, examined Beans and determined that his injuries were consistent with injuries a dog would incur in an altercation with another dog. Placement arrangements for Beans are being made for a time when the most caregivers can be in attendance.
    According to Dogtown management, Beans had a green collar when he first came in to the sanctuary and then his collar was changed to purple. Purple is the collar signifying that a dog is not yet suited to work with children and can also mean that he/she has a specific training plan which could be for several reasons including being excessively shy, having dog interaction issues, etc.
    Beans lived across the road from Tug and they both lived approximately 100 yards from Denzel, none of their runs were side by side with one another. The breaches occurred in the backs of each of the three separate runs, not in between adjacent runs.

    • Fluffysmom

      I have been told that Beans lost his head. Would Dr Dix say that was a normal result of a dog fight? This was not an “altercation” it was a slaughter.

      • Kathi

        Gee, thank you SO much for sharing this information with the rest of us, Fluffysmom. All at the expense of your anti-BF agenda. Thank you, the visual of that is very comforting to those of us who are mourning Beans. Do you not have more constructive things you could be doing with your time?

        • Fluffysmom

          People wanted and needed to know the truth from someone since BF cannot do it.

          • Kathi

            Whatever. People don’t want graphic details like that.

          • Fluffysmom

            Oh, but they did. The entity that did not want the details exposed was…..Best Friends.

          • Kathi

            You are honestly going to tell me that people are BEGGING to know that Beans was decapitated, if that was the case??? Exactly what good does that information do ANYONE??? You’ve got some real vindictive blood running through your veins at the expense of Beans. Sick.

          • Dwf

            Kathi, sometimes the truth is hard to hear! Especially, when it DOES NOT support your point of view. Fortunately, there are still some people out here that believe in right and wrong. Do you think that this whole incident should be swept under the rug? By getting this story out to the public, which has every right to know what goes on at a “non profit”, you may force BF to actually live up to their responsibility of taking care of the animals they have. And, preventing this type of incompetence in the future.

          • Rudysmom

            new to this but**
            reading this & other reports 4 information/background to this “incident”;

            In any inquiry/investigation of such event on property owned by BestFriends, most especially a Rescue Organization that relies heavily upon media & public for their (quite substantial I might add) budget dollars,
            Policy of Full Disclosure is not only necessary, but highly suggested
            B/C in order to give the appearance of said F.D.,
            No relevant facts can be withheld, denied or ‘muddied’.

            If these sorts of practices are engaged, then even the merest perception of
            Non-Transparency creates a negative picture, and further creates an atmosphere of Mistrust and Suspicion.

            I will admit, I find it *extremely odd* that a dog being completely decapitated while on the property of a Rescue the likes of BF creates a highly disturbing image in my mind — and, I must assume — the minds of countless others as well.

            For what purpose was this information withheld?
            And Kathi,
            I must ask you this:
            Why would you assume that You (or BF) has the Right to Decide
            “what good that information do anyone”
            b/c that simply creates mental picture of a very carefully orchestrated Media Spin.

            I know no-one on this blog, either personally or by user-name.
            I have never posted here before, but Rescue friends recommended it to me, so just imagine my shock to finally check it out and read this….

            This does not sound like just an oversight, a gate left unlatched by careless employee –
            because that means the gates of 3 highly dog-aggressive canines were
            ALL LEFT UN-LATCHED AT EXACTLY THE SAME TIME

            Wow – what a coinky-dink, no?
            Just curious about your response to that observation…..

          • Julie

            I’m curious as to why you’re assuming the information that Beans was decapitated is accurate?

          • Anonymous

            Hi Rudysmom,

            Thanks for visiting our blog, and obviously I am sorry that this is what you are seeing as a first time visitor. This has been a tremendously difficult situation for everyone who works at Best Friends and those who care for the organization and the animals in our care.

            You are correct, that the conspiracy theories, assumptions and mistruths being posted here by a select few are exactly that….mistruths. I am deeply saddened by the few people who seem intent on trying to take a horrific accident to further their own agendas which is a clear dislike for Best Friends.

            We are taking the necessary steps to ensure this never happens again, and rest assured, no warning signs were ignored here. It was a completely unpredictable event and it is disgusting that people are attempting to portray this situation otherwise.

            Beans was not found decapitated. Period.

            Jon Dunn
            Best Friends Animal Society

          • Rudysmom

            I must tell you that I’m incredibly disturbed by everything I’ve read here, especially as this is my first visit to your site, which was so highly recommended to me by many respected Rescue friends across North America.
            I would like to correct you, because I think you may have misinterpreted my earlier comments –
            “You are correct, that the conspiracy theories, assumptions and mistruths being posted here by a select few are exactly that….mistruths” (copy & paste from your reply above)
            I was not referring to people posting ‘mistruths’ as you refer to them, I was drwing attention to very valid point in any investigation of such an incident (which BFAS has said it has initiated into this circumstance) that a policy of Full Disclosure was in the best interests of Best Friends, because it allows for open-ness and transparency in questionable circumstances.

            I’m disturbed for many reasons after visiting your site. Firstly because there seems to be large amounts of conflicting information being given, and as a direct result of such,
            BF would be wise to dispel all so-called “myths’, for example about references to “decapitation” by making readily available legitimate evidence to the contrary – that is what is known in broad circles as “Transparency” and “Full Disclosure”.

            I thank you for taking the time to personally respond to my comments in reply here.
            I wonder then, you say with certainty that this dog was not in fact found decapitated;
            if that is indeed the case, would you be willing to post the PostMortem which was performed?
            That would go a long way toward dispelling what You’ve refer to as rumors and gossip-mongering
            It would also show that Best Friends is indeed implementing a Policy of Full Disclosure, Transparency, Honesty and Open-ness with their thousands of donors and supporters and fellow animal-lovers.
            I for one would hate to see an organization with such a known name be accused of with-holding vital information, or of misleading its abundant and faithful supporters.

          • Dwf

            Jon, you are truly earning your pay this week as the PR guy at BF. I hate to be the one to break this to you, but this is NOT the first time something like this has happened at BF. Nor do I think it will be the last time! How dare you “threaten” to ban people from this discussion because their comments don’t fit your “spin” of what may or may not have happened! You are the perfect example of what is wrong with BF. Last time I checked we still live in a free society!

          • Dj Slez

            I want surely want to know explicitly what condition Bean’s was in as well as know where he really died.

            Fluffy isn’t on a blood lust, he simply want’s the truth. Especially since it has been noted that BF has a penchant for censoring certain people and facts.

            The fact that you’re willing to just accept whatever spews out of their mouths is doing more injustice to Beans than someone who wants to know exactly what happened.

          • Dwf

            I couldn’t agree with you more! Why is it so hard for BF to tell the truth? The answer is; because BF can’t benefit from it in this case. The only thing that can come of this unfortunate incident is bad press! BF is not in the business of bad press because that will hurt their ability to bilk, I mean solicit donations. I think more and more people are finally starting to realize that BF is not all that they present themselves as.

        • Kristy

          What’s your agenda Kathi? And what is BF’s for that matter? The fact that Beans was decapitated is vitally important in determining what really happened that night. Something it seems BF’s doesn’t want anyone to know. I am grateful to whistleblowers who defend the truth regardless of the consequences they may bear. Good luck to you Kathi trying to sweep this under the rug, it won’t work. Your diversion tactics are so blatant it’s laughable.

      • Anonymous

        Your source could not be more incorrect. I am going to ask the same of you, that I am asking of others. Please feel free to participate in the conversation. We have nothing to hide, and that is precisely why this conversation about this horrible tragedy is also wide open. However, posting mistruths, personal attacks, and incorrect rumors are in violation of the terms and conditions of the Best Friends web properties. Continued breaking of these rules and I will ban your IP address from the ability to comment further.

        Jon Dunn
        Best Friends Animal Society

      • doglove

        There were some wounds, but Beans was NOT ripped to pieces and his head was attached to his body when I saw him Sunday morning. Anybody who claims he was decapitated is either lying with an agenda or has bad information and doesn’t care about the truth. Everybody can rest easy on that matter, and thank you for caring about Beans and Tug (and Denzel I assume). The staff and everybody else who knew any of these three dogs are horrified by what happened and in shock and mourning. Some people here obviously also care about the actual dogs, not about the chance to attack Best Friends.
        @Fluffysmom and all the others who hate Best Friends and are doing their best to destroy us (you know that if you succeeded, which you won’t, that all the animals here would be destroyed as well, having nowhere else to go, right???!!):
        I know the truth, I saw Beans that morning, and since Best Friends doesn’t know who I am on this post, don’t bother saying I’m trying to keep my job. I actually know what I’m talking about, as opposed to most of the posters on here. Unless you saw him yourself, in other words, which I did and you obviously didn’t, then stop passing on lies and rumors. People who are spreading these horrific lies on here definitely have an anti Best Friends agenda and the truth makes no difference to them in their ultimate agenda to hurt Best Friends. And if it matters to you, which it obviously doesn’t, your lies make it that much harder for those of us who actually knew and loved Beans to deal with his passing. Not like you care.

        • Becky Dodge

          Thanks to you, Julie and Jon for spending the time responding to all the viciousness that seems to be flying around on this and Faith’s blog entry. I know this time is especially hard for you and all the others at BF and you have my sincere condolences. Losing a loved dog is hard (my oldest died in May) and especially so when the circumstances are as bad as this way.

          Just be aware that you have many who support all of you and want to see the marvelous things you are doing continue into the future as long as there is need. I probably won’t ever get the chance to visit but even so the job you all are doing is vital so be aware that you and all the animals you care for are also cared for by many people like me.

          • Julie

            Thanks Becky. I’m not an employee. I’ve volunteered there 4 times and spent a lot of time with the caregivers and the dogs in Dogtown. I prefer the truth to lies, viciousness and people with agendas.

          • Becky Dodge

            Yes, the truth about this tragedy is much better than much of what appear to be half-truths and perhaps lies being spread. Until I have direct evidence to the contrary my thinking is that the people who work there should be accorded the respect of acceptance of their telling of the events that took place. Right now all I’ve read from certain posters seems to be a lot of half-truths, rumors, exaggerations, etc.

            There MAY have been some things that could have been done differently and there are probably some things that will be changed going forward. There are undoubtedly lessons that have been learned (yes at a high cost) that everyone wishes had not been so costly but I wasn’t there. I don’t think that I have anywhere near enough knowledge to criticize and so all I can do is extend my sympathy to those who are much more closely involved. The hostility of some posters bothers me very much and is something that seems very much overdone, even given the circumstances of this tragedy.

        • Dj Slez

          Although no factual evidence was given on the amount of damage done to his body, it wouldn’t be surprising that a dog bred and trained to fight would rip the head off another when engaged in a fight.

          After all, I’ve seen documentaries of many trained dog fights where body parts were strewn across the floor.

          Is it wrong to say for fact? Sure. However, presuming such an incident doesn’t seem to illogical when you look at pitbull fighting history.

          • EmilyS

            no, they actually don’t rip each others heads off in a fight. Impossible. Ever happened in any organized dogfight. You have NEVER seen a documentary of a dogfight where body parts are strewn across the floor. What are you doing: trolling the internet to look for footage so you can get your rocks off?

            Now, it’s possible that 2 dogs playing “tug of war” with a another (dead) dog might pull off a limb or a tail. MAYBE a head though that is physically extremely implausible.

            If anyone has a wacked hate-agenda, it’s YOU, dude.

          • Dwf

            Now, who is promoting the “gory” aspect??

          • doglove

            You are presuming, Dj, about what may have happened to Beans, and ignoring the voices of those who actually saw him. That seems very illogical to me.

      • Dj Slez

        Like I said in a post above, any dog that rips the head off another should be euthanized. But doing that to the Vick dogs is (who are misunderstood angels) is cruel and unusual punishment! Baww…. much like what one of the dogs did to Beans.

    • Dwf

      I thought purple colored collars were issued to dogs with medical issues??

      • Julie

        Yellow is for dogs with medical issues. Purple is for volunteers 18 years and older only.

  • redneirfxe

    These arguments make me tired. It is a sad situation all around. It’s sad about the dogs and it’s sad that some people wait around until something bad happens to push a personal agenda. So much time spent on vindictiveness and a smear campaign. It’s just sad.

    • Kathi

      Couldn’t agree with you more – especially from people who don’t even understand the colored collar program.

  • sad

    I have been giving to BF for years now to the Guardian Angel program (well that’s where we thought it was going, b/c we have a special needs animal) and now I’m starting to doubt that’s where my money is going?? I’ve been following Beans on the forum and lately on Facebook (McKenzie our thoughts and prayers are with you right now) w/ the caretakers teaching him how to high five & sneeze and having rave sleepover reviews…I’m so very confused and angry right now. I have nothing against pitties but this is just CRAZY!! Why should we come on this forum and say YAY Tugs & Denzel for still being alive when Beans is dead, they killed him..I have read so much about this and the REAL story has not been given. Me & my husband had a talk tonight and this just might be the end of giving if we can’t get the TRUE story and to know that measures have been taken to prevent this again.. $43 million is alot of money – where is it going?? How many more dogs have to die to save the Vick dogs?? And believe me I say that with tears in my eyes..

    • Dj Slez

      I concur with most of this.

  • RIP Beans <3

    Can I just ask, does anyone know if Bean was actually “ripped apart”….or was it more of neck wounds and suffocation? =( I just need to know, knew him and its hard to explain. Know Tug too, I just don’t see him fighting in that way =/

    • exfriender

      Poor Beans was decapitated. His body was found in his run and the rest in the dirt outside. From the condition it wasn’t possible to determine which wounds were antemortem .

      • Julie

        How do you know this to be true? Did you see him yourself?

      • Anonymous

        Completely untrue. Gerry, please see my above warning about watching what you are saying. It is a disgusting mischaracterization of the facts.

        • exfriender

          While I stated that happening as a result of multiple direct reports, in retrospect I now realize that it was too inflammatory and really should not play any part in the larger questions. While I cannot, of course, retract it, I do apologize for that posting.

          On the other implied item, please ask your direct report who called you (Patty) when I may become “Thomas” or somebody else again, as may be found in some of your older blogs, when she was using various names. It’s difficult to keep track of this…

          George

          • Jessica

            Thank you exfriender. Keep writing about the need for double fencing.

      • doglove

        Is it intentional that you spread untruths or do you just not know what you are talking about? I know you don’t know the truth because I saw Beans myself that morning (see above post) and obviously you did not.

        • Dj Slez

          Haha, unless there’s proof of you being there that day then I can not take your word for it…

          • Iris

            Well exfriender sure wasn’t there.

          • doglove

            So you want proof that I was there, and unless I provide it (not that you would believe me) you won’t believe me?

            I see from your other posts that you are willing, happy even, to spread false allegations that can’t be proven because they are untrue. Where is your “proof” that your story is the truth? I happen to know that you can’t prove your own story, but since you are so strident with your claims I felt that somebody who really knows should comment so the rest of the readers here can have the truth, if they want it.

  • SS9595

    And Tug’s alleged role in this is…??? The events, as they have been relayed to me, have him playing quite a significant role. Yet, all we hear is Beans, Beans, Beans. Perhaps if he too was a Victory dog, he would enjoy what is starting to look like a witness protection program.

    I have been a supporter for years. And I want to continue to support what you do but events like this make it more and more difficult.

    • Dj Slez

      I respect a person or company that provides honest truth more than a company that lies and deceives….

      I’m not the kind of person for conspiracy, but I do think somethings are being a bit skewed thus misinforming most people.

      Either way, what happened was horrible…

    • Santa Fe

      I agree with you SS9595. I too have been a supporter of BFAS for years and had intended that BFAS be left funds after my death. Now it is time to reassess everyhing after these events. I think that we past supporters of BF are being given very good “PR” “stuff'” from an organization that I really admired…

  • exfriender

    All of this fits with the latest news from today, since Ledy Van Kavage came in with advice to speak of Beans and only Beans.

    “For the record, there has never been a request for fencing that has been denied due to lack of funds, period.”

    That statement may well come back to haunt you…

    • Anonymous

      Gerry,

      Many of your comments have directly been in violation of the terms and conditions of the Best Friends web properties. I have allowed your comments to stay, even though they are filled with mistruths and personal attacks because I think healthy discussion is healthy. However, I feel a lot of this is becoming (and has become) unproductive. I am going to ask that you watch what you say to others especially as I simply won’t allow personal attacks. Continued violations and I will ban you from commenting. Before you accuse me of censorship, realize how much we’ve allowed to stay up. Not one comment has been deleted from any of these posts.

      Thank you,

      Jon Dunn
      Best Friends Animal Society

  • Sloughnane

    I know you go above and beyond for all the animals. Thank you for your efforts to keep each and every one in your charge safe. As in all aspects of life, some things are out of our control. Unfortunately, Beans lost his life to one of those events that is out of our control. RIP little Beans. You were very much loved. One of the lucky ones, taken too soon.

  • Piper

    Why aren’t there videocams monitoring things? It’s a minimal investment, given the donations BF takes in, and I believe it would also be a good idea for liability concerns at the facility.

  • Lovefelines2003

    I’m a bit confused….if Beans broke out of his run, did he then break into Tug’s run? And then Tug killed Beans and broke into Denzel’s run? I’ve heard so many different theories…aren’t there experts that can look at the evidence to determine exactly what happened? It would help to know to prevent this from happening again….in any event, it is all devastatingly sad. I feel more clarification is needed and would also like to know if Bean has been laid to rest yet at Angels Rest. (I am thinking perhaps there was an autopsy done…) Was there a memorial service for him? Will we be able to go to his resting place and pay our respects? I believe that as supporters, volunteers to BF, members and volunteers at the sanctuary we need more information. Thank you.

  • Dj Slez

    Hopefully people will now realize that with powerful and normally dog and stranger aggressive breeds need more secure fencing.

  • Fluffysmom

    And the BF beat goes on! Never tell the truth when a lie will serve. You state that BF never uses double fencing. Gee, someone called BFstaffer said that Ogy and one other dog in the Lodges had double fencing. BFstaffer wrote that on Faith’s blog “Sad News From Dogtown.” If Beans was dog aggressive, why did his picture have a green collar. Don’t you realize that people are getting wise to all the BF lies. How can you as management be so dumb as to think the public will accept this any more. Your lies and the public criticism of them are all over the web. Now this blog is just digging the hole deeper. Pretty soon you will bury yourselves and have no one to blame for it but yourselves. The public is not so willing to believe your propaganda any more. For heaven sake, tell the truth for once.

    • Iris

      There are many dog-aggressive dogs at the Lodges who wear green collars. The color of their collar has nothing to do with their behavior towards other dogs. Beans wore a green collar (as does Ogy) because he was fine with humans, not so much with other dogs. But then you already knew that. You’re just trying to build your twisted case any way you can. Keep it up Fluffysmom and people will get wise to you as well.

      • Fluffysmom

        What would there be for people to get wise to me over? I say exactly what I think and question what does not sound right to me.Yes, I have an agenda: to get BF to stop lying and own up to the truth. The caregivers do a great job; management, not so much.

        • exfriender

          A number of the green collar dogs at the Lodges showed significant dog aggression, which is why there are so many single and double runs there. Other than that, I have agreed with everything that Fluffysmom has written here.

          • Dj Slez

            I agree, I think they should have colored collars for dog aggressive dogs as well. It seems asinine to not have them really… Considering they have a collar code for almost anything else in a dog’s personality or nature.

          • exfriender

            In this case I’ll actually support BFAS:-) First, dog aggression is not black-and-white but has a very wide range. Second, the whole purpose of the arrangement of runs at the Lodges (1-2 dogs/run) is to provide a place for dog-aggressive dogs, while the Garden and other areas may have a half-dozen or so dogs/run. Therefore, anybody working at the Lodges should assume some amount of dog-aggression on every animal there, and specific collar colors are not needed.

            On another item, welcome to Iris. I’ve sorely (sic) missed you, dear Patty Catty. Good luck in your new job.

          • Dj Slez

            I can understand that dog agression could be in a lot of dogs, but it still seems weird that it wouldn’t be mentioned anywhere on their collars. I’m sure they know which dogs are good with with, but what if someone accidentally let certain dogs play together?

            I’m not sure if they allow dog on dog contact in their sanctuary, it seem as though most of the dogs (that aren’t puppies) are given wide open pens and lots of individual love which is really good. So dog/dog play might not be a heavy consideration for mental enrichment?

            Wasn’t trying to be a jackass, I just thought it was odd for them not to have collars for severe dog aggression when they have one for kids, and other aggression cases.

          • Iris

            There are dogs who play together, but they live in areas with dogs who get along with other dogs. These dogs are introduced very carefully and monitored closely to make sure their living arrangement doesn’t endanger any of the dogs in the run. When at the sanctuary, it is always encouraged to assume that the dog at the end of your leash is dog-aggressive even if they come from a multiple dog run. It is not unheard of that two dogs who get along in their run, don’t get along as well on the trail. So indicating on the collar that a particular dog is dog-aggressive is redundant. No volunteer would ever be encouraged to “let a dog play with another dog” at their own discretion. You’re told to give other dogs a wide berth on the trails and during sleepovers.

          • Dj Slez

            Ok! Thanks for clearing things up there Iris.

            I’ve only seen a few videos which was why I as so unsure.

          • Iris

            Gee thanks Gerry, I’ve missed you as well. Sorry it’s taking so long for you to bring Best Friends to it’s knees. But given you have so much more time on your hands since you can’t volunteer there anymore I’m sure you’ll figure it out somehow. Just keep twisting those facts, Gerry. Disgruntled ex-volunteers are always the “go-to” guys for the fairest, most accurate summaries of any situation. At least you still remember what the collars mean……..kind of.

    • Dj Slez

      What does the green color mean?

      • Julie

        It means volunteers can walk and interact with the dogs. They are always told by caregivers to keep the dogs away from other dogs (even if they aren’t dog aggressive).

    • Harringtonje

      I’d actually like to clarify a couple things in regards to the double fencing and Ogy’s enclosure. First and foremost, Patty only said that they never used double fencing for exterior fencing, implying that they do in fact use double fencing between runs. As for Ogy, I interned at BF in the summer of ’09 and spent an extensive amount of time with Ogy, then return the following spring to visit him again. After referring to my pictures from both visits, I can confidently tell you that Ogy’s enclosure has double fencing ONLY between his run and his neighbors, not on the exterior fencing. Also, as I believe is stated below, Ogy also has a green collar. The collar color has nothing to do with dog aggression, it simply states which dogs can interact with which age of people. Green collars can be handled by and interact with children, purple collars need 18+ (I believe), and red collars can only be handled by staff.

      • Harringtonje

        Also, before someone goes crazy and somehow manages to twist my comment, I would like to clarify that the green collar dogs can be handled by and interact with children UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF AN ADULT.

  • Maryandpups

    Did Tug and Denzel have concrete board visual barriers? What about Lucas? And the other Vick pits that are at the Lodges? What about the other dogs at the Lodges that are extremely dog aggressive, do they have concrete board visual barriers?

    • Anonymous

      Put your hipboots on as the bullshit gets deeper.

  • Iris

    Thank you for clarifying some of the enclosure issues surrounding Beans’ death. Where do Denzel and Tugs fit into this incident?

  • jj

    To all Dog Town staff: I know how you are all hurting over this incident. You must know that most caring folks are keeping you in thier thoughts. Keep doing what you are all doing. The animals need the level of care and committment you all demonstrate.