Column about the dogs in N.Y. Times sports section

Here's a copy of the column written by sports columnist Bill Rhoden this week in the New York Times. He called us last weekend to talk about the dogs, how they're doing, why we took them, and what's our take on PETA's view that they should have been killed. He was particularly interested in that aspect since he doesn't have a background in animal protection and thought that all animal care organizations agreed on matters like this one.

 

 

March 12, 2008
Sports of The Times
Vick Case Exposes Rift Among Animal-Rights Advocates

By WILLIAM C. RHODEN

The lingering image of Michael Vick's dogfighting case last summer was the daily courthouse appearance by members of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

They were noisy and angry in their denunciation, insisting that Vick, the fallen multimillion dollar quarterback, be punished for his role in illegal dogfighting and subsequent cruelty to animals.

He was certainly punished. Vick is serving a 23-month federal sentence for criminal conspiracy resulting from felonious dogfighting.

But there remains a widening divide still simmering within the animal-rights community over the treatment of abused, high-risk animals. The friction boils down to a matter of life and death. PETA generally advocates euthanizing rescued fighting dogs, while other groups lean toward rehabilitation.

The public disagreement is eye-opening for those of us who assumed animal-rights and animal-welfare groups were all on the same page. After talking to both camps, this much is clear:

They all love the animals, but can't seem to get along with each other.

The divide surfaced in the aftermath of the Vick trial when the judge, Henry Hudson, ordered Vick to pay $928,073 in restitution for the "past, present and long-term care of all the dogs." The court allocated $5,000 for dogs deemed likely to be adopted, and $18,275 for each of the dogs going into longer-term or lifetime sanctuary care.

PETA argued that dogs trained for fighting should be destroyed because they are unsafe and unserviceable. PETA said the Vick money would have been better spent spaying and neutering, as well as providing care for more suitable and less well-known adoption candidates.

The folks at Best Friends Animal Society argued that the fighting dogs had been forced to lead brutal lives and should not receive death sentences.

The court agreed with Best Friends, and that's when the sniping really began. Rebecca J. Huss, a professor at the Valparaiso University School of Law, was appointed to represent the interests of the Vick dogs. Under her supervision, 25 of the 47 surviving dogs were classified as sanctuary dogs and placed with seven different shelters. Best Friends received the other 22 dogs, including one that was assessed as being highly adoptable.

Ingrid Newkirk, the founder and chief executive of PETA, called Best Friends "an expensive Camelot."

"These are celebrity dogs," she said this week in a telephone interview. "That isn't a good use of money, it isn't the best uses of time. The Vick dogs are the least likely candidates for success. It's just a much more exciting story that comes with money attached to it."

The founder of Best Friends, Michael Mountain, said PETA, for all its high-profile advocacy, is boxed in by an outdated philosophy.

"I don't think PETA's argument is with us, I think it's with themselves," he said from Utah in a telephone interview. "It's really difficult as an animal-rights, animal-protection, animal-whatever-you-want-to-call-it organization to explain away the fact that pretty much all the animals you rescue, you kill. It doesn't make logical sense; it doesn't make emotional sense."

Can these groups ever work together?

Here's where they agree. They oppose cruelty to animals, advocate for an end to dogfighting and believe in animal population control. PETA believes in the ideal of the no-kill shelter; Best Friends carries it out.

Vick, demonized by PETA for more than a year, could become the bridge in this divide. Newkirk struck up a relationship with Vick beginning last fall when he visited PETA headquarters in Norfolk, Va. Vick impressed her.

"We told him that he had to put away his mobile phone for the day; he couldn't have his bodyguard with him for the day," she said. "He came here and he was very respectful. He sat the whole day and we showed him videos about who animals are and how sensitive and emotional they are and how, like a child, you can ruin them by abusing them."

Newkirk said she and Vick have exchanged letters. He wrote that he missed his children, "and he wants people to know that he does care about what he did and we talk about that."

She suggested to Vick that he do a television commercial in which he tells dog fighters to get out of the game. He has not responded to that proposal, she said.

Mountain said Best Friends would love to have Vick visit Utah and see how his dogs are being rehabilitated.

Huss isn't convinced that Vick is rehabilitated. She said, "The perspective of a lot of the animal welfare organizations is that they don't get a sense that he really understands or cares about what happened to the dogs while the dogs were on his properties or even since they've been off."

I must confess that the dogs were often background music to my perspective on the Vick case. I felt the sentence was unduly harsh. But this is not really a dogfighting issue or an animal-rights issue or an overpopulation issue. This is a caring issue: If we, as a society, cannot treat the defenseless with kindness, how can we ever hope to truly care for one another?

Under Newkirk's direction, PETA has launched many important initiatives — including shining a light on the brutal dogfighting industry. But she is on the wrong side of this pit-bull issue. If a dog can be rehabilitated, rehabilitate; if a life can be saved, save it.

Even if it's taking place in Camelot.

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March 14, 2008 12:18 PM
 

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March 14, 2008 4:08 PM
 

speedbump said:

I was very disappointed by PETA attitude. This is a wonderful opportunity to research exactly what can be done for abused animals. This isn't about Vick's dogs it's about all animals mistreated. I hope PETA will watch these dogs with open hearts and minds. Vick was the abuser and I find it very apropriate that his money go for their well-being not the spaying and neutering of obscure animals he has no connection with... they are not his responsibility but these dogs are. We continue to make progress in slowing down the unwanted animal population... now let's make progress and give life to abused animals instead of condeming them to death through no fault of their own.

March 14, 2008 9:10 PM
 

Hope said:

Best Friends believes in a larger truth than PETA:all animal lives are worth saving.

They aren't rehabilitaing them just so that they may be adopted. They are rehabilitating them because they are worth saving. Because they are sentient beings. Because they deserve it......

March 14, 2008 10:05 PM
 

missydog said:

Another positive article from the New York Times. PETA is soooo jealous of Best Friends. Vick doesn't have a clue as to why his treatment of these innocent dogs was wrong. He's just sorry he was caught.

March 14, 2008 10:58 PM
 

debb29 said:

IF YOU DONT LOVE ANIMALS THAN YOU SHOULD NOT BE IN THE BUSINESS TO CARE FOR THEM. EVERY ANIMAL DESERVES TO LIVE.

March 14, 2008 11:28 PM
 

kbbk78 said:

It seems that PETA has lost sight at what's important, I have to wonder if they would have been so vocal if there wasn't so much money involved. I was told that if you go to the PETA Mall you'd find the following statement "Benefit to PETA: Enter the Amazon site from special PETA Mall links, and 5% of your sale will benefit PETA." Which is TOTALLY disgusting as Amazon.com sells dog fighting and rooster fighting materials. If you go to their website and type in dog fighting at search, you'll unfortunately see more than you ever wanted. I personally contacted Amazon asking them as a long time customer to quit carrying such barbaric material and was basically put off as were others. I'm spreading the word far and wide. Sounds like PETA and Amazon both have double standards - sad. Money just controls to much in today's world. Please don't support Amazon until they agree to quit carrying such awful products. Thanks.

March 14, 2008 11:39 PM
 

marlamill said:

March 15, 2008 12:12 AM
 

dozer said:

 "THE GREATNESS OF A NATION AND IT'S MORAL PROGRESS CAN BE JUDGED BY THE WAY IN WHICH IT'S ANIMALS ARE TREATED"  

          Ghandi

March 15, 2008 2:44 AM
 

caniscandida said:

Michael Mountain has wisely said of PETA: They are quarrelling within themselves.

We must all acknowledge the many good things that the PETA people have done over the years, for the sake of the animals.  And we must thank them for their activism.

Unfortunately, their very earnestness renders them all too often unfriendly and inhumane.

I continue to be thankful for all the information and insights that PETA offers (and even more, the excellent HSUS, which might also be included in this conversation -- hurray Rebecca Aldworth, in Canada, fighting for the harp seals!).  But of course, right now, Michael Mountain and Best Friends, and the amazing Karen Dawn, and "Ambassador to the Animals" Francis Battista, are at the heart of pro-animal humanist ethics.

March 15, 2008 2:53 AM
 

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March 15, 2008 4:58 AM
 

chawny said:

Disappointed to know that Best Friends would love to have this monster visit and see how these precious dogs are being rehabilitated. I  assume that he would think the abuse and brutality he inflicted really didn't hurt them after all.

The dogs are being rehabilitated but that evil will never change.

March 15, 2008 8:37 AM
 

scimillo said:

There is an important distinction between a sanctuary and a shelter/rescue group. Best Friends is a sanctuary and can commit to caring for an animal for its entire life, while trying to adopt out as many as possible.  Many rescue groups don't have the resources to provide sanctuary and have to consider adoptability as a factor.  So Best Friends is there to do what so many of us can't...provide sanctuary those dogs that can't be adopted.  To criticize BF for that is to not understand their mission.

March 15, 2008 9:07 AM
 

caniscandida said:

Chawny,

people are not monsters.  People are not themselves evil.  They are confused, and ignorant of what is good, and in their ignorance they do evil things.  But they themselves are not evil.

Read Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar."  Today is the traditional date of Caesar's assassination, by a number of thoughtful but competitive and envious Romans, rather like Michael Vick, including Caesar's young friend, perhaps his son, Brutus.  How wise Shakespeare is, to end that play full of hope, and appreciation of the noble friendship between Brutus and Cassius!

Right now, we certainly want Michael Vick's dogs to be well, and to be happy.  But we want no less for Michael Vick himself.  Believe it or not, he is a beautiful sentient being too.  He just has a way to go.  And it is up to us, by our love and mercy, to help him get there.

March 15, 2008 9:12 AM
 

janetskinner said:

I'm disappointed in PETA. If a feral cat can't be rehabilitated, should that animal then be put down?  Is TNR a waste of time because the animals are not "adoptable"...kinda the same story, just the animal is different.  As an advocate of TNR for cats, I would go the distance to protect my colony from being killed..plus euthanasia is NOT a form of animal control, it should be used to humanely end the suffering of a severly sick or injured animal...since when is a sanctuaried animal sick or injured and in pain?  

March 15, 2008 11:20 AM
 

sharkster said:

I agree 100% with what scimillo said..BF's is a sanctary and as such is able to take long term care of animals, its why so many people donate to it.I'd bet that every other resuce/shelter group out there would love to beable to do what BF's does and hopefully one day we'll have MANY MORE BF's type sanctuaries out there. More people should send their money to No Kill shelters and send a message that No Kill is the only exceptable form of sheltering. PETA and the HSUS have there place when it comes to fighting other types of animal cruelty but not when it comes to animal rescue and rehabilation,they should stick to fighting the fur trade and humane slaughter of farm animals but leave the rescuing and rehabiliation to pepople like BF"s and Nathan Winograds No Kill advocacy group.So if your passion and cause in life is to rescue and rehabiliate animals then your donations are well spent at places like BF's and NKA (no kill advocacy)

March 15, 2008 11:54 AM
 

Maldegem said:

I think the folks at PETA have a truly exaggerated sense of their own importance.  Their self-righteous proclamations have so turned me off that I would never consider joining them again.  And when I found out that they seem to have no problem with euthanizing animals, that was the last straw.  Apparently they haven't got a clue as to how far love and acceptance and security can bring a cat or a dog or any animal along the road to healing.    

March 15, 2008 12:57 PM
 

pdmrgm123 said:

MISSY DOG SAID IT ALL WE WERE JUST AT BEST FRIENDS AND THEY LOOKED FINE. IN FACT THE FIRST DOG I WALKED WAS A PIT IT WAS NOT ONE OF HIS BUT HE WAS THE SWEETEST THING IN THE WORLD. WE HAD TO STOP EVERY FEW MINUTES BECAUSE HE WANTED TO GET A HUG. WHAT A VICIOUS DOG. HE WAS MORE LIKE A SAINT. BY THE WAY IT WAS A GIRL NAMED OLIVIA.

March 15, 2008 1:00 PM
 

claudiavq said:

I'm a brasiliam,and think Michael Vick is like a drug.Hes was the example for the teenagers,and have to pay all the things he did.He is demoniac,evil.I want him suffering in jail like his dogs suffer with him.

March 15, 2008 2:42 PM
 

colleenamareena said:

Thank you, caniscandida. Well said. As angry as I have been about this, and what this man did to these dogs, he also deserves a chance. Animals bite people, kill people, kill each other. We say it's not their fault, and they deserve another chance. All sentient beings including humans, deserve another chance. He might not take it, might not ever reform, but that is part of what Free Will is all about. We can only hope and pray that he, too, like his dogs, will someday be "rehabilitated."

I am so glad that BF is out there, taking the big groups of dogs like this, and the other 2000 animals at the sanctuary, in order to better the lives of as many suffering animals as they can.

March 16, 2008 12:07 AM
 

animellover said:

Shucks....I hate that we all don't agree.  "I am am a homeless pit and should be saved" (AGREED)...."I am an ex-figher (albeit against my will)...I should be saved too".  Who can argue with that?  How can a higher value be placed on one over the other?  And yes, BF got money and air time, etc.....GREEEEEEEEEEEEEAT!  That was the idea, afterall, right?  What better way to get our communities aware and involved?  Peta, the donations stop now...I'm in this to learn the no kill philosophy, you don't understand that,............no more money from me......sorry.

March 16, 2008 3:17 AM
 

animellover said:

Shucks....I hate that we all don't agree.  "I am am a homeless pit and should be saved" (AGREED)...."I am an ex-figher (albeit against my will)...I should be saved too".  Who can argue with that?  How can a higher value be placed on one over the other?  And yes, BF got money and air time, etc.....GREEEEEEEEEEEEEAT!  That was the idea, afterall, right?  What better way to get our communities aware and involved?  Peta, the donations stop now...I'm in this to learn the no kill philosophy, you don't understand that,............no more money from me......sorry.

March 16, 2008 3:17 AM
 

heatherbuns said:

Unfortunately for dogs they are what their owners train train them to be!   When I watch animal planet the different city/state animal control officers have very strong viewpoints about their rehabilitation. They want to uthanize all of them.   I'm glad that Best Friends agrees with me...give them a chance.  

Regarding PETA.  They have always been over the top!    

March 16, 2008 4:02 PM
 

aurorac said:

The rehabilitation of the Vick dogs is monumental in the fight against killing shelter animals because someone labels them "un-adoptable."  I have a rescued dog that would certainly have failed the standard temperament tests and labeled un-adoptable.  He had a horrific first 5-7 years of life.  He took extra patience and love, but in less than a year he has become a loving, affectionate, and loyal companion.  Animal Rights means the right to live, and in this case, the chance to live.  PETA has done some wonderful work to help the lives of animals, but they have failed the sheltered animals by not promoting the No Kill philosophy.  Best Friends is a wonderful organization and I applaud their work and dedication.

March 17, 2008 10:05 AM
 

Desertponder said:

Excellent article! Its wonderful to see someone expose PETA for what they really are.

The rehabilitation of the Vicktory Dogs will pave the road for other organizations to give dogs in similar situations a chance at life.

March 17, 2008 11:46 AM
 

bettyhnc said:

I am from North Carolina and carefully followed the recent court case of the PETA workers "euthanizing" cats & dogs that they took from vets and organizations in my state.  The vets & shelter workers were under the impression that these animals were going to be placed in other shelters for adoption.  These animals did not make it out of the county, yet alone the state, prior to being killed & dumped in a dumpster!.  Once caught, PETA's response on their website was "give money and help the homeless animals of NC."  At that time I wrote to the attorney general & asked for PETA to be investigated as a non-profit & charitable organization.  If an organization which calls itself ethical, meaning "expressing moral approval or disapproval," who gave it the right to play God & decide which animals live & which ones die?  Best Friends has the correct philosophy -ethically and morally - of no-kill for ALL animals.  And not just for the selective few that PETA deems are worth the effort.

March 18, 2008 6:58 PM
 

SkyeDog said:

I seldom have time to comment, though I frequently read blogs that interest me.  But the comments about PETA caught my attention.  I have long said that I would not support PETA if they were the last animal welfare group on earth.  It's been over 12 yrs since my personal run in with members of that group, and the thought of it still makes me angry.  I have not researched PETA's stand on raising livestock for food, but no matter where you stand, having adults come into a sheep barn at a local fair and harass small children with 4-H sheep projects in a very aggressive in-your-face manner is just wrong.  Having had to run them out of the barn and deal with sobbing children, I have nothing but bad feelings about their organization.  (this was an organized protest sponsored by PETA)  I strongly feel that Best Friends is nothing like PETA.  I'm so glad the judge didn't listen to them, and gave the Vick dogs a chance at life.  

March 19, 2008 6:23 PM
 

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March 21, 2008 3:46 PM
 

yodel3yahoocom said:

I would not support PETA but have supported Best Friends. The Vick dogs are the victims. Do we euthanize a dog because it has been a victim of abuse or do we show compassion and treat them as they should be treated - humanly.

I would sincerely love to see everyone stop donating to PETA - they have too much of a double standard attitute for me.

March 22, 2008 3:05 PM
 

yodel3yahoocom said:

I would not support PETA but have supported Best Friends. The Vick dogs are the victims. Do we euthanize a dog because it has been a victim of abuse or do we show compassion and treat them as they should be treated - humanly.

I would sincerely love to see everyone stop donating to PETA - they have too much of a double standard attitute for me.

March 22, 2008 3:05 PM
 

yodel3yahoocom said:

I would not support PETA but have supported Best Friends. The Vick dogs are the victims. Do we euthanize a dog because it has been a victim of abuse or do we show compassion and treat them as they should be treated - humanly.

I would sincerely love to see everyone stop donating to PETA - they have too much of a double standard attitute for me.

March 22, 2008 3:05 PM
 

thankfulforbestfriends said:

The truth is, Best Friends is an expensive haven to run. We as members, supporters & volunteers have no problem with donating to such a worthy cause. Sure Ingrid, the Vicktory dogs came with press & some money, for their own personal care. What about all of the other nameless, abused & abandoned animals that have been taken in & cared for? Everyday this wonderful organization accepts more of the helpless throw aways of society, & they have always done it & will continue to do it without the media coverage. What does PETA do when no one is watching? Ask the people of North Carolina!

March 26, 2008 7:43 PM
 

amasheilae said:

Michael, I'm sure that you've thought of this, but I would never subject the dogs to actually seeing Vick in person again. There is no reason to even CHANCE retraumatizing the dogs. If he doesn't get the warm fuzzies of a snuggle with these beautiful animals to make him feel better, too bad. The victim's right to peace and safety always dominates over the perpetrator's process of remorse and repair. Thanks so much for what you do. all the best, sheila

March 29, 2008 3:54 PM
 

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April 9, 2008 8:47 PM
 

QMD333 said:

Ingrid Newkirk, in her infinite ignorance and arrogance, said "The Vick dogs are the least likely candidates for success."

And you know what Ms. Newkirk, these "least likely to be rehabilitated candidates" are BEING REHABILITATED.

 So, if the Vick Dogs, the "least likely" to be rehabilitated, are being rehabilitated, what does that say about the likelihood of ANY AND ALL cats and dogs being rehabilitated?

 It says that, with enough love, caring, compassion, and a reverence for the lives of these precious four-legged souls (None of which you have for them), ANY AND ALL can be helped, and ANY and ALL can find a good loving home, where they can live out their precious lives, without having to worry about psychotic killers like PETA murdering them, in the name of "rescue".

So, take the foot out of  your mouth, Ms. Newkirk, and wake up......we are living in a compassionate age, an age that values lives, instead of taking them. Your outdated, moronic, lethal tactics are not acceptable. And you know darn well, that if some psycho came running after you with a lethal needle, you would consider them a murderer. Funny how things change when our OWN selfish rear ends are the ones that are in danger of being killed. Then we protest and call it cruelty. Nothing is more cruel than telling someone that you are God, and thus, have a right to take their lives, because you consider them as being unworthy of living. That is what PETA does. They take lives.  Yet not one of the PETA policy makers would ever allow someone to take their lives.

This world will become a No-Kill world, Ms.Newkirk. You can either join the No-Kill community and help us to save lives faster, or you can get off of the tracks when the No-Kill train comes steaming through to save shelter animals, who, your ignorance and arrogance aside, ARE INDEED worthy of life.....just as much as you and I are.

May 26, 2008 3:17 AM
 

QMD333 said:

To clarify, when I said that all shelter animals are worthy of life, I also include on the worthy list, feral cats, fighting, dogs....etc.

ALL ANIMALS are worthy of life.

Also, I agree that Michael Vick, should certainly not be allowed anywhere near those dogs. They dont need to have flashbacks of that punk's cruel treatment of them.

They need to be loved and cared for, which they are getting. Please ban Michael Vick from the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary for life. When you abuse and murder animals, you lose your privilege of visiting Best Friends....or atleast you should.

Allowing Michael Vick to see the dogs would be like allowing OJ Simpson to visit the Goldman or Brown families.They cannot possibly benefit from such an intrusion...it can only re-ignite the nightmare that they are trying to overcome.

Love your editorials in Best Friends Magazine, Mr. Mountain. I hope that you will gather them all, and put them in a book someday, for all of us to enjoy.

"Life is life - whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human conception for man's own advantage." ~Sri Aurobindo

May 26, 2008 3:43 AM

About Michael Mountain

Michael Mountain is the President and one of the founders of Best Friends. He’s also editor of Best Friends magazine and the principal voice of Best Friends to our members – articulating the basic Best Friends message that kindness to animals builds a better world for all of us. At home, Michael lives with a motley collection of otherwise “unadoptable” dogs and cats – like Pudgie, an old Sheltie who had lived for seven years on the end of a chain and was de-barked when he annoyed the neighbors. He enjoys hiking the back woods of Angel Canyon (the home of Best Friends) and the local national parks of the Southwest.